The Mystery of the Fake Neddie Seagoons - Revision history

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	\| music = **Orchestra: [[Wally Stott]]		\| music = **Orchestra: [[Wally Stott]]
	*Geldray: ''Boo-Dah''		*Geldray: ''Boo-Dah''
	*Ellington: ''[[~~w:It's All Right with Me\|~~It's All Right with Me]]''		*Ellington: ''[[It's All Right with Me]]''
	\| production = [[The Goon Show recording numbers#TLO\|TLO]] 16986		\| production = [[The Goon Show recording numbers#TLO\|TLO]] 16986
	\| recording_date = {{Start date\|1956\|11\|25\|df=y}}		\| recording_date = {{Start date\|1956\|11\|25\|df=y}}
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	'''''The Mystery of the Fake Neddie Seagoons''''' is an episode from [[The Goon Show]]. It is the ninth show in the seventh series. [[Wallace Greenslade]] announces the show as "''The Great Art Mystery'' or ''The Case of the Fake Neddie Seagoon''".		'''''The Mystery of the Fake Neddie Seagoons''''' is an episode from [[The Goon Show]]. It is the ninth show in the seventh series. [[Wallace Greenslade]] announces the show as "''The Great Art Mystery'' or ''The Case of the Fake Neddie Seagoon''".

	A pre-recording session took place on Sunday {{Date\|1956-11-25}} at 5pm at The Camden Theatre (DLO 16989). The recording for transmission was created at 9pm on the same Sunday {{Date\|1956-11-25}}, at [[w:KOKO (music venue)\|The Camden Theatre]], Camden Town, London.		A pre-recording session took place on Sunday {{Date\|1956-11-25}} at 5pm at The Camden Theatre (DLO 16989). The recording for transmission was created at 9pm on the same Sunday {{Date\|1956-11-25}}, at [[KOKO (music venue)\|The Camden Theatre]], Camden Town, London.

	The first [[BBC Home Service\|Home Service]] broadcast was the following Thursday at 8.30pm on {{Date\|1956-11-29}}, its ratings were 2.3 million.		The first [[BBC Home Service\|Home Service]] broadcast was the following Thursday at 8.30pm on {{Date\|1956-11-29}}, its ratings were 2.3 million.
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	==Music==		==Music==
	*The BBC Radio Orchestra was conducted by [[Wally Stott]]		*The BBC Radio Orchestra was conducted by [[Wally Stott]]
	*[[Max Geldray]] plays ''Boo-Dah'' {{small\|([[~~w:Billy Strayhorn\|~~Billy Strayhorn]])}}		*[[Max Geldray]] plays ''Boo-Dah'' {{small\|([[Billy Strayhorn]])}}
	*[[Ray Ellington\|The Ray Ellington Quartet]] plays ''[[~~w:It's All Right with Me\|~~It's All Right with Me]]'' {{small\|([[~~w:Cole Porter\|~~Cole Porter]])}}		*[[Ray Ellington\|The Ray Ellington Quartet]] plays ''[[It's All Right with Me]]'' {{small\|([[Cole Porter]])}}

	==Technical==		==Technical==
	Originally recorded on [[The Goon Show recording numbers#TLO\|TLO 16989]] (15 ips ¼" tape recorded at [[~~w:Broadcasting House\|~~Broadcasting House]]).		Originally recorded on [[The Goon Show recording numbers#TLO\|TLO 16989]] (15 ips ¼" tape recorded at [[Broadcasting House]]).

	The TLO 16989 master tape no longer exists, and the version of the show included on [[The Goon Show Compendiums#Vol10\|The Goon Show Compendium Vol 10]] was compiled from a [[w:Digital Audio Tape\|DAT]] copy of the [[BBC Sound Archive\|Sound Archives]] shelf tape made in 1990 and a domestic tape recording of the original transmission.<ref>{{Cite AV media notes \|title=[[The Goon Show Compendiums#Vol5\|The Goon Show Compendium Vol 5]] \|first=Ted \|last=Kendall \| author-link=Ted Kendall \|date=2011 \|page=13\|type=Booklet 2 \|publisher=BBC Worldwide\|ISBN=978-1408-427286}}</ref>		The TLO 16989 master tape no longer exists, and the version of the show included on [[The Goon Show Compendiums#Vol10\|The Goon Show Compendium Vol 10]] was compiled from a [[Digital Audio Tape\|DAT]] copy of the [[BBC Sound Archive\|Sound Archives]] shelf tape made in 1990 and a domestic tape recording of the original transmission.<ref>{{Cite AV media notes \|title=[[The Goon Show Compendiums#Vol5\|The Goon Show Compendium Vol 5]] \|first=Ted \|last=Kendall \| author-link=Ted Kendall \|date=2011 \|page=13\|type=Booklet 2 \|publisher=BBC Worldwide\|ISBN=978-1408-427286}}</ref>

	==References==		==References==

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	A pre-recording session took place on Sunday {{Date\|1956-11-25}} at 5pm at The Camden Theatre (DLO 16989). The recording for transmission was created at 9pm on the same Sunday {{Date\|1956-11-25}}, at [[w:KOKO (music venue)\|The Camden Theatre]], Camden Town, London.		A pre-recording session took place on Sunday {{Date\|1956-11-25}} at 5pm at The Camden Theatre (DLO 16989). The recording for transmission was created at 9pm on the same Sunday {{Date\|1956-11-25}}, at [[w:KOKO (music venue)\|The Camden Theatre]], Camden Town, London.

	The first [[w:BBC Home Service\|Home Service]] broadcast was the following Thursday at 8.30pm on {{Date\|1956-11-29}}, its ratings were 2.3 million.		The first [[BBC Home Service\|Home Service]] broadcast was the following Thursday at 8.30pm on {{Date\|1956-11-29}}, its ratings were 2.3 million.

	The show was repeated:		The show was repeated:
	*Monday 8pm, {{Date\|1956-12-03}}, on the [[w:BBC Light Programme\|Light Programme]] to 3.6 million listeners.		*Monday 8pm, {{Date\|1956-12-03}}, on the [[BBC Light Programme\|Light Programme]] to 3.6 million listeners.
	*Sunday 9.30pm, {{Date\|1982-07-25}} on [[w:BBC Radio 4\|Radio 4]] in ''Smash of the Doy''.		*Sunday 9.30pm, {{Date\|1982-07-25}} on [[BBC Radio 4\|Radio 4]] in ''Smash of the Doy''.

	== Transcription Service Synopsis ==		== Transcription Service Synopsis ==

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	}}		}}
	~~SHOW 161 (7/9): The Mystery of the Fake Neddie Seagoons (aka The Case of the Fake Neddie~~
	~~SeagoonsJ (CD4,Track 11)~~

	~~Pre-recording:~~		'''''The Mystery of the Fake Neddie Seagoons''''' is an episode from [[The Goon Show]]. It is the ninth show in the seventh series. [[Wallace Greenslade]] announces the show as "''The Great Art Mystery'' or ''The Case of the Fake Neddie Seagoon''".
	~~Sunday 25 November 1956, 5pm,~~ The ~~Camden Theatre~~. ~~DLO I 6989~~.

	~~Recording:~~		A pre-recording session took place on Sunday {{Date\|1956-11-25}} at 5pm at The Camden Theatre (DLO 16989). The recording for transmission was created at 9pm on the same Sunday {{Date\|1956-11-25}}, at [[w:KOKO (music venue)\|The Camden Theatre]], Camden Town, London.
	Sunday 25 ~~November~~ 1956, ~~9pm,~~ The Camden Theatre~~.TLC 16989~~.

	~~First Home Service Broadcast:~~		The first [[w:BBC Home Service\|Home Service]] broadcast was the following Thursday at 8.30pm on {{Date\|1956-11-29}}, its ratings were 2.3 million.
	~~Thursday 29 November 1956, 8.30pm. Ratings: 2.3 million. RI: 66.~~

	~~Repeat~~
	~~Monday 3 December 1956, 8pm, 3.6 million [Light Programme];~~
	~~Sunday 25 July 1982, 12 noon [Radio 4 in Smash of the Doy].~~



	'''''The Mystery of the Fake Neddie Seagoons''''' is an episode from [[The Goon Show]]. It is the ninth show in the seventh series. Wallace Greenslade announces the show as "''The Great Art Mystery'' or ''The Case of the Fake Neddie Seagoon''".

	~~Two pre-recording sessions took place:~~
	*Wednesday {{Date\|1959-01-28}}, 4.15pm/5.15pm. [[Aeolian Hall (London)\|Aeolian Hall]] Studio 2 (TLO & C/DLO 76382, TLO 77924)
	*Saturday {{Date\|1959-02-01}}, 5.45pm, [[Paris Theatre\|The Paris Cinema]] (DLO 76513/A)

	~~The recording for transmission was created at 8pm on Sunday {{Date\|1958-12-14}}, at [[w:KOKO (music venue)\|The Camden Theatre]], Camden Town, London (TLO 72138).~~

	The first [[w:BBC Home Service\|Home Service]] broadcast was the ~~next day~~ at 8.30pm on ~~Monday~~ {{Date\|~~1958~~-12-15}}, its ratings were 1.1 million.

	The show was repeated:		The show was repeated:
	*~~Wednesday 9.31pm~~, {{Date\|~~1958~~-12-17}}, on the [[w:BBC Light Programme\|Light Programme]] to 2.3 million listeners.		*Monday 8pm, {{Date\|1956-12-03}}, on the [[w:BBC Light Programme\|Light Programme]] to 3.6 million listeners.
	*~~Friday~~ 9.30pm, {{Date\|~~1964~~-03-06}} on ~~the~~ [[w:BBC ~~Home Service~~\|~~Home Service~~]] in ''~~Vintage Goons'', to 0.5 million listeners.~~		*Sunday 9.30pm, {{Date\|1982-07-25}} on [[w:BBC Radio 4\|Radio 4]] in ''Smash of the Doy''.
	*Friday 9.30pm, {{Date\|1965-08-20}} on the ~~[[w:BBC Home Service\|Home Service]] in ''Let's Laugh Again~~''~~, to 0.2 million listeners (the broadcast was affected by a fault on the reproduction equipment)~~.

	== Transcription Service Synopsis ==		== Transcription Service Synopsis ==

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	*The BBC Radio Orchestra was conducted by [[Wally Stott]]		*The BBC Radio Orchestra was conducted by [[Wally Stott]]
	*[[Max Geldray]] plays ''Boo-Dah'' {{small\|([[w:Billy Strayhorn\|Billy Strayhorn]])}}		*[[Max Geldray]] plays ''Boo-Dah'' {{small\|([[w:Billy Strayhorn\|Billy Strayhorn]])}}
	*[[Ray Ellington\|The Ray Ellington Quartet]] plays ''[[w:It's All Right with Me\|It's All Right with Me]]'' {{small\|[[w:Cole Porter\|Cole Porter]])}}		*[[Ray Ellington\|The Ray Ellington Quartet]] plays ''[[w:It's All Right with Me\|It's All Right with Me]]'' {{small\|([[w:Cole Porter\|Cole Porter]])}}

	==Technical==		==Technical==

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	Originally recorded on [[The Goon Show recording numbers#TLO\|TLO 16989]] (15 ips ¼" tape recorded at [[w:Broadcasting House\|Broadcasting House]]).		Originally recorded on [[The Goon Show recording numbers#TLO\|TLO 16989]] (15 ips ¼" tape recorded at [[w:Broadcasting House\|Broadcasting House]]).

	The TLO 16989 master tape no longer exists, and the version of the show included on [[The Goon Show Compendiums#Vol10\|The Goon Show Compendium Vol 10]] was compiled from a DAT copy of the Sound Archives shelf tape made in 1990 and a domestic tape recording of the original transmission.<ref>{{Cite AV media notes \|title=[[The Goon Show Compendiums#Vol5\|The Goon Show Compendium Vol 5]] \|first=Ted \|last=Kendall \| author-link=Ted Kendall \|date=2011 \|page=13\|type=Booklet 2 \|publisher=BBC Worldwide\|ISBN=978-1408-427286}}</ref>		The TLO 16989 master tape no longer exists, and the version of the show included on [[The Goon Show Compendiums#Vol10\|The Goon Show Compendium Vol 10]] was compiled from a [[w:Digital Audio Tape\|DAT]] copy of the [[BBC Sound Archive\|Sound Archives]] shelf tape made in 1990 and a domestic tape recording of the original transmission.<ref>{{Cite AV media notes \|title=[[The Goon Show Compendiums#Vol5\|The Goon Show Compendium Vol 5]] \|first=Ted \|last=Kendall \| author-link=Ted Kendall \|date=2011 \|page=13\|type=Booklet 2 \|publisher=BBC Worldwide\|ISBN=978-1408-427286}}</ref>

	==References==		==References==

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	==Technical==		==Technical==
	Originally recorded on [[The Goon Show recording numbers#TLO\|TLO ~~72138~~]] (15 ips ¼" tape recorded at [[w:Broadcasting House\|Broadcasting House]]).		Originally recorded on [[The Goon Show recording numbers#TLO\|TLO 16989]] (15 ips ¼" tape recorded at [[w:Broadcasting House\|Broadcasting House]]).

	The TLO ~~72138~~ master tape no longer exists, and the version of the show included on [[The Goon Show Compendiums#Vol10\|The Goon Show Compendium Vol 10]] was compiled from ~~the [[Original Issues - The Goon Show\|TGS]] disc, the [[Pick~~ of the ~~Goons\|POTG]] master~~ tape and domestic ~~recordings~~ of ~~both~~ the original transmission ~~and the 1964 repeat~~.<ref>{{Cite AV media notes \|title=[[The Goon Show Compendiums#Vol5\|The Goon Show Compendium Vol 5]] \|first=Ted \|last=Kendall \| author-link=Ted Kendall \|date=2011 \|page=13\|type=Booklet 2 \|publisher=BBC Worldwide\|ISBN=978-1408-427286}}</ref>		The TLO 16989 master tape no longer exists, and the version of the show included on [[The Goon Show Compendiums#Vol10\|The Goon Show Compendium Vol 10]] was compiled from a DAT copy of the Sound Archives shelf tape made in 1990 and a domestic tape recording of the original transmission.<ref>{{Cite AV media notes \|title=[[The Goon Show Compendiums#Vol5\|The Goon Show Compendium Vol 5]] \|first=Ted \|last=Kendall \| author-link=Ted Kendall \|date=2011 \|page=13\|type=Booklet 2 \|publisher=BBC Worldwide\|ISBN=978-1408-427286}}</ref>

	~~7/9 - The Mystery of the Fake Neddie Seagoons~~
	~~Originally recorded on TLO 16989.This no longer exists, and this issue was compiled from a DAT copy of~~
	~~the Sound Archives shelf tape made in 1990 and a domestic tape recording of the original transmission.~~

	==References==		==References==

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References

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	~~[[Category:Empty Goon Show episodes]]~~
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	[[Category:Goon Shows announced by Wallace Greenslade]]		[[Category:Goon Shows announced by Wallace Greenslade]]

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	SHOW 161 (7/9): The Mystery of the Fake Neddie Seagoons (aka The Case of the Fake Neddie		SHOW 161 (7/9): The Mystery of the Fake Neddie Seagoons (aka The Case of the Fake Neddie
	SeagoonsJ (CD4,Track 11)		SeagoonsJ (CD4,Track 11)
	~~Pre-recording: Sunday 25 November 1956, 5pm, The Camden Theatre. DLO I 6989.~~
	~~Recording: Sunday 25 November 1956, 9pm, The Camden Theatre.TLC 16989.~~
	~~First Home Service Broadcast: Thursday 29 November 1956, 8.30pm. Ratings: 2.3 million. RI: 66.~~
	~~Repeat Monday 3 December 1956, 8pm, 3.6 million [Light Programme]; Sunday 25 July 1982, 12 noon~~
	~~[Radio 4 in Smash of the Doy].~~
	~~Transcription Service Synopsis: As everyone knows, there is only one genuine signed original Neddie~~
	~~Seagoon. In their search for the genuine article, Grytpype-Thynne, Moriarty and Neddie Seagoon are~~
	~~concerned with an adventure in a dustbin, a noisy episode with sixty-eight pianos and a visit to a picture~~
	~~restorer's workshop. Finally Eccles is thrown into a bath of turpentine and is washed away, revealing the~~
	~~original Neddie Seagoon by Elder the Breugel. Unfortunately a second seemingly genuine Seagoon is~~
	~~discovered and the problem is, which is the fake?~~
	~~Music Max Geld ray plays Boo-Dah (Billy Strayhorn); The Ray Ellington Quartet plays It's All Right with Me~~
	~~(Cole Porter).~~

	'''''The ~~Seagoon Memoirs~~''''' is an episode from [[The Goon Show]]. It is the ~~seventh~~ show in the ~~ninth~~ series.		Pre-recording:
			Sunday 25 November 1956, 5pm, The Camden Theatre. DLO I 6989.

			Recording:
			Sunday 25 November 1956, 9pm, The Camden Theatre.TLC 16989.

			First Home Service Broadcast:
			Thursday 29 November 1956, 8.30pm. Ratings: 2.3 million. RI: 66.

			Repeat
			Monday 3 December 1956, 8pm, 3.6 million [Light Programme];
			Sunday 25 July 1982, 12 noon [Radio 4 in Smash of the Doy].



			'''''The Mystery of the Fake Neddie Seagoons''''' is an episode from [[The Goon Show]]. It is the ninth show in the seventh series. Wallace Greenslade announces the show as "''The Great Art Mystery'' or ''The Case of the Fake Neddie Seagoon''".

	Two pre-recording sessions took place:		Two pre-recording sessions took place:
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	== Transcription Service Synopsis ==		== Transcription Service Synopsis ==
	~~'To open~~ the ~~scene~~, ~~take~~ a ~~knife~~ and ~~cut along the dotted line. Inside you will find the [[w:Great North Road (Great Britain)\|Great North Road]] in an icy blizzard~~.~~' This~~ is ~~how Spike Milligan describes the setting for the start~~ of the ~~latest unexpurgated edition of~~ Seagoon~~'s memoirs~~. ~~Listeners can~~, ~~in fact, buy a copy (in a plain sealed envelope) at any local Second Class Slipper Bath.~~		As everyone knows, there is only one genuine signed original Neddie Seagoon. In their search for the genuine article, Grytpype-Thynne, Moriarty and Neddie Seagoon are concerned with an adventure in a dustbin, a noisy episode with sixty-eight pianos and a visit to a picture restorer's workshop. Finally Eccles is thrown into a bath of turpentine and is washed away, revealing the original Neddie Seagoon by Elder the Breugel. Unfortunately a second seemingly genuine Seagoon is discovered and the problem is, which is the fake?

	==Music==		==Music==
	*The BBC Radio Orchestra was conducted by [[Wally Stott]]		*The BBC Radio Orchestra was conducted by [[Wally Stott]]
	*[[Max Geldray]] plays ''~~[[w:I Kiss Your Hand, Madame\|I Kiss Your Little Hand, Madame]]~~'' {{small\|([[w:~~Ralph Erwin~~\|~~Ralph Erwin~~]] ~~(music) / [[w:Fritz Rotter\|Fritz Rotter]] (lyrics)~~)}}		*[[Max Geldray]] plays ''Boo-Dah'' {{small\|([[w:Billy Strayhorn\|Billy Strayhorn]])}}
	*[[Ray Ellington\|The Ray Ellington Quartet]] plays ''[[w:~~The Late, Late Show (album)~~\|~~The Late Late Show~~]]'' {{small\|~~(Murray Berlin (music) /~~ [[w:~~Roy Alfred~~\|~~Roy Alfred~~]] ~~(lyrics)~~)}}		*[[Ray Ellington\|The Ray Ellington Quartet]] plays ''[[w:It's All Right with Me\|It's All Right with Me]]'' {{small\|[[w:Cole Porter\|Cole Porter]])}}

	==Technical==		==Technical==

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	The TLO 72138 master tape no longer exists, and the version of the show included on [[The Goon Show Compendiums#Vol10\|The Goon Show Compendium Vol 10]] was compiled from the [[Original Issues - The Goon Show\|TGS]] disc, the [[Pick of the Goons\|POTG]] master tape and domestic recordings of both the original transmission and the 1964 repeat.<ref>{{Cite AV media notes \|title=[[The Goon Show Compendiums#Vol5\|The Goon Show Compendium Vol 5]] \|first=Ted \|last=Kendall \| author-link=Ted Kendall \|date=2011 \|page=13\|type=Booklet 2 \|publisher=BBC Worldwide\|ISBN=978-1408-427286}}</ref>		The TLO 72138 master tape no longer exists, and the version of the show included on [[The Goon Show Compendiums#Vol10\|The Goon Show Compendium Vol 10]] was compiled from the [[Original Issues - The Goon Show\|TGS]] disc, the [[Pick of the Goons\|POTG]] master tape and domestic recordings of both the original transmission and the 1964 repeat.<ref>{{Cite AV media notes \|title=[[The Goon Show Compendiums#Vol5\|The Goon Show Compendium Vol 5]] \|first=Ted \|last=Kendall \| author-link=Ted Kendall \|date=2011 \|page=13\|type=Booklet 2 \|publisher=BBC Worldwide\|ISBN=978-1408-427286}}</ref>

	7/8 - ~~Penonal Narrative~~		7/9 - The Mystery of the Fake Neddie Seagoons
	Originally recorded on TLO ~~16600~~. This ~~tape~~ no longer exists, and this issue ~~has been~~ compiled from the		Originally recorded on TLO 16989.This no longer exists, and this issue was compiled from a DAT copy of
	~~POTG master~~ tape~~, the TGS disc~~ and a domestic tape recording of the original transmission.		the Sound Archives shelf tape made in 1990 and a domestic tape recording of the original transmission.

	==References==		==References==

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